30 Nov. 45
LAHOUSEN: I would like to achieve clarity relative to what the
General has in mind. Am I being asked about the conference in the
Führer's train in 1939 prior to the fall of Warsaw? According to
the entries in Canaris' diary, it took place on 12 September 1939.
This order or directive which Ribbentrop issued and which Keitel
transmitted to Canaris, Ribbentrop also giving it to Canaris during a
brief discussion, was in reference to the organizations of National
Ukrainians with which Amt Abwehr cooperated along military lines, and
which were to bring about an uprising in Poland, an uprising which
aimed to exterminate the Poles and the Jews; that is to say, above
all, such elements as were always being discussed in these
conferences. When Poles are mentioned, the intelligentsia especially
are meant, and all those persons who embodied the national will of
resistance. This was the order given to Canaris in the connection I
have already described and as it has already been noted in the
memorandum. The idea was not to kill Ukrainians but, on the contrary,
to carry out this task of a purely political and terroristic nature
together with the Ukrainians. The cooperation between Amt Ausland
Abwehr and these people who numbered only about 500 or 1000, and what
actually occured can be clearly seen from the diary. This was simply
a preparation for military sabotage.
THE TRIBUNAL (Gen. Nikitchenko): These instructions were received
from Ribbentrop and Keitel?
LAHOUSEN: They came from Ribbentrop. Such orders which concerned
political aims couldn't possibly come from Amt Ausland Abwehr because
any...
THE TRIBUNAL (Gen. Nikitchenko): I am not asking you whether they
could or could not. I am asking you where they came from.
LAHOUSEN: They came from Ribbentrop, as is seen from the
memorandum. This is the memorandum that I made for Canaris.
DR. DIX: I have three short questions. May I put them?
THE PRESIDENT: It is now past 4, and we have to hear the requests
of the Defendant Hess, and the Court has to be cleared for them. So I
think you had better postpone them until tomorrow.
[A recess was taken and all defendants
except Hess were removed from the courtroom.]
THE PRESIDENT: I call upon counsel for the
Defendant Hess.
DR. GUNTHER VON ROHRSCHEIDT (Counsel for Defendant Hess): May it
please the Tribunal, I am speaking as counsel for the Defendant
Rudolf Hess.