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tried and been unsuccessful, then I
would have been locked up or killed and Rascher would have been able to
continue his experiments for a long time without any restriction.
Q. At that time, was there any possibility in Germany to resist, and in
what did you see such possibility?
A. There were only three types of resistance possible. First of all,
emigration for a person who was able; second, open resistance which
meant a concentration camp or the death penalty, and to my knowledge,
never met with any success; third, passive resistance by apparent
yielding, misplacing and delaying orders, criticism among one's friends,
in short, what writers today call "internal emigration." But
that really doesn't have much to do with the question. As far as the
direct question of prevention is concerned, I would like to say
something more. To take a comparison from the medical field, it is
unknown to me and I cannot imagine, for example, that an assistant of a
scientific research worker who is performing infections with a fatal
disease, for example, leprosy, on a prisoner, that this assistant should
prevent the scientist from carrying out this infection by force
perhaps by knocking the hypodermic syringe out of his hand and crying "You
mustn't do that, the man might die!" I could imagine that some
assistant might, for personal reasons, refuse to participate in such
experiments, but I cannot imagine that if there were a trial against
this doctor the prosecution would demand that the assistant should have
prevented the scientist in this manner.
Q. Then, you are convinced that prevention by force was impossible
A. Yes.
Q. But could you not have filed charges, for example, with the police
or with the public prosecutor, against Rascher?
A. Yes, of course, I could have, but if I had gone there and said, "Rascher
has performed experiments ordered by Himmler by the Chief of the
German Police and whatever else he was the Reich Leader SS, the
State Secretary in the Ministry of the Interior," they would
probably have said: "Well, we can't do anything about it. If he has
orders, then we can't do anything about it."
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2. FREEZING EXPERIMENTS
a. Introduction
The defendants Karl Brandt, Handloser, Schroeder, Gebhardt, Rudolf
Brandt, Mrugowsky, Poppendick, Sievers, Becker-Freyseng, and Weltz were
charged with special responsibility for and participation in criminal
conduct involving freezing experiments (par. 6 (B) of the indictment).
On this charge the defendants Handloser, Schroeder, Rudolf Brandt, and
Sievers were convicted. The defend-
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