NMT01-T633
Volume I · Page 633
In respect to the poison experiments. I proved in my written statement that Ding's assertion that Mrugowsky had ordered him to be present at a euthanasia killing by phenol is not correct. Professor Killian, who according to Ding's statement, was present when the order was given said that this statement of Ding's was incorrect. It showed that the examination of the question of whether the noxious effect of serums containing phenol can be proved by the comparative use of serums with and without phenol, and also a series of experiments with serums containing phenol was never carried out.
The experiments with pervitin were carried out on the initiative of Dr. Morgen and Dr. Weimer, according to the Ding diary. I proved that no harm was caused to the health of the experimental subjects by three experiments. The experiments were performed with pervitin which can be obtained in any chemist's shop without a prescription and consequently is not a poison. In the experiments it was used together with a narcotic because the authority wanted to determine whether, as a result of this treatment, the effect was increased one way or the other. The only effect was that the experimental subjects fell into a disturbed sleep for up to 20 hours. This pervitin experiment was not ordered by Mrugowsky; he did not participate therein in any way, and the prosecution did not even contend that he knew of it. No responsibility under criminal law may be deduced against him from this experiment.
With regard to the special experiment on 6 persons mentioned in Ding's diary, it is again solely the witness Kogon who gave details. In my closing brief I pointed out that, in this case too, Kogon gave contradictory testimony in the Pohl trial² and the doctors' trial about the origin of this experiment. Thus his evidence has no probative value. Moreover, Kogon's description of this experiment, except for the sealing and the burning of the prescription, is only based on Ding's statements. In respect to this special experiment, there is no evidence whatsoever to show the type of poison used, the manner in which the special experiment was performed, and the aim of the experiment. After the collapse, Ding told the defendant Sievers that towards the end of 1944 in Buchenwald he had filled 80 phials with prussic acid in order to commit suicide, but he unfortunately took none of them with him.
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¹Final plea is recorded in mimeographed transcript, 17 July 1947, pp. 11049-11074
² United States vs. Oswald Pohl, et al. See Vol. V.
