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because we were interrupted, "You know my point of
view." I must add here that in long conversations at night I had tried to
explain to him that his only way out was to do as much as possible for the
political prisoners, but that in serious cases he must, as a human being,
refuse to carry out orders which violated the moral laws.
He laughed when I said that and replied, "I know your religious and moral
ideas. You know I don't believe in anything. This way is out of the question
for me; all I can do is comply with the first suggestion and collaborate with
the political prisoners."
In this poison case, he went in great haste and excitement to the camp leader,
Sturmbannfuehrer Schubert, whom he had informed beforehand by telephone, and
the commander, Oberfuehrer Pister, who also know about it and they all went?I
don't know whether the camp physician was also present at any rate, they
went to the crematorium, not to Block 46. The Russian prisoners of war, again,
four of them, had been taken there into the cellar with the 46 hooks on the
walls on which the people were strangled These four Russians were given this
poison. I do not know how it was administered. As Ding-Schuler told me later,
they died in a very abort time. Then they were dissected and cremated. Dr. Ding
did not send a written report on this matter to Berlin. He told me he had to
report on it to Mrugowsky orally. Ding was not only excited about this matter,
but afterwards he was also very secretive about it. He did not want me to talk
about it any more. From indications in his conversation I learned that there
was some connection with experiments in the Sachsenhausen concentration camp
near Oranienburg which Mrugowsky had performed in Ding's presence. Prisoners
must have been shot there with poisoned bullets, because Ding said that a
Russian prisoner of war had succeeded in getting hold of a knife and attacking
Mrugowsky, but that the prisoner had been immediately overpowered.
In any case, Ding did not want to have anything more to do with the matter,
even in my presence. A short time later the prescription and the sealed
envelope were burned by Ding in my presence. He held it over a candle in my
presence and burned it. I could not find out what the contents were. "
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II. INCENDIARY BOMB EXPERIMENTS
a. Introduction
The defendants Genzken, Gebhardt, Mrugowsky, and Poppendick were charged with
special responsibility for and participation in criminal conduct involving
incendiary bomb experiments (par. 6 (L) of the indictment). The defendants were
acquitted on this charge.
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