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had handed it in, Grawitz sent me to Dr. Hevelmann at the Chancellery of the Fuehrer. There I learned that it was actually a matter of euthanasia of the insane, and that the transfer was only a pretext. It was pointed out to me that it was on direct orders from the Fuehrer and that Reichsleiter Boulder had been instructed to carry it out.

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At first, three institutions in different parts of Germany were mentioned. The insane people who were to come under the program were to be selected, and Heyde, as chief expert, reserved the final decision for himself. Everything was to be based on strictly medical views and only such persons were to be selected who in a psychiatric sense could be called "siech" (incurably ill).

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During all the negotiations the names which were mentioned of the persons who took part were Grawitz, Hevelmann, Heyde, Blankenburg, Brack, and Boulder. Not a single word was said about Dr. Karl Brandt. Everything at that time was still in the early stages.

Later the problem arose again, when I was department head with Reich Health Leader Dr. Conti; that was at the end of the summer of 1941 when the Fuehrer's order came that euthanasia should be stopped. But here too the name of Professor Dr. Karl Brandt was never mentioned.

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  TRANSLATION OF KARL BRANDT
DOCUMENT 19
KARL BRANDT DEFENSE
EXHIBIT 16
 
AFFIDAVIT OF ALFRED RUEGGEBERG,
23 JANUARY 1947, CONCERNING
RADIO DISCUSSIONS ON EUTHANASIA
 

I, Alfred Rueggeberg, factory owner in Marienheide, have been told by the certifying notary that I am liable to punishment if I make a false statement under oath.

I declare under oath that my statement is true and is being made to be presented as evidence to the Military Tribunal I, at the Palace of Justice in Nuernberg, Germany:

In summer 1945 I listened to a BBC broadcast from England, which was an interview between the English radio commentator (as far as I remember it was Mr. Robert Graham) and Pastor von Bodelschwingh of Bethel.

In the course of this interview Pastor von Bodelschwingh pointed out that a number of years ago the place now occupied by the radio commentator had been occupied by Professor Brandt and Herr Bouhler who, under Hitler's orders, were discussing questions on euthanasia.


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