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[particu
] lar, only the truth was at
stake for they were interested in finding out what the population was actually
thinking in regard to certain events, measures, laws, speeches, judgments, etc.
Q. Do you know in what form these reports were forwarded?
A.
That is not known to me; I never read such a report.
Q. According to
Elkar's testimony you directed your attention to the development of criminal
and penal proceedings. (Tr. p. 2890.) What ideas did you represent?
A. I believe I have already stated my position on that question. I do
not remember a great deal in detail regarding what was discussed at that time.
One question, for example, which interested us and which demonstrates how we
came to speak about these matters and what opinion we represented is the
question which was frequently discussed in this trial, and that is the contact
of the prosecution during the trial with the court because of the application
for penalty. Opinions from circles of lawyers and judges and from the
prosecution were gathered for this purpose at that time. I myself represented
the opinion that this problem grew into a problem only because it was treated
in a wrong manner on the part of the administration of justice. The entire
question could be solved by a small remark in the "Deutsche Justiz," namely, by
pointing out that the law does not provide that a formal application has to be
made, and therefore it would have been sufficient to instruct the prosecutors
to refrain from a formal application for penalty and to be satisfied with
adducing the evidence and then stating the reasons which spoke for and against
the defendant. With that, the entire excitement and fuss which was caused by
the formal application for penalty could have been avoided.
Q. What
reason did you give for this suggestion?
A. The reason which I have
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Q. Elkar alleges that you had also talked
about pending trials and had discussed also the facts as well as the legal
situation and future judgment. (Tr. p. 2891.) Was the name of a
defendant ever mentioned as long as trial was still pending?
A. The
names of defendants never played any importance in these conversations. The
manner of expression was general. The individual cases, as such, were of no
importance at all and their outcome even less so. It is possible that in the
most infrequent cases as an example of a definite criminal deed, in
order to demonstrate, for example, the method of the consequences of this
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