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A. Unfortunately, after I wrote this
memorandum, especially here in this trial, and also when I was in Berlin
already, I found out that the Fuehrer acted in a different way. The purpose of
this memorandum, however, was merely the following: to convince the Fuehrer
that the men who had influenced him so far and in that direction were wrong. My
knowledge from Hamburg was not sufficient in order to know already at that time
that the Fuehrer himself could not be convinced. But that is not only my own
tragedy, but the tragedy of the entire German people.
Q. Did you ever
consider the possibility that the Fuehrer in reading your memorandum read it
literally and decided that when you said "The Fuehrer should be the supreme
judge," that you meant what you said? Did you ever consider that possibility?
A. Yes, I considered that possibility.
Q. Do you have any
feeling that in practice it didn't work out that way? In fact, the evidence
adduced here at this trial tends to prove, don't you believe, that by the end
of the war the Fuehrer really became the supreme judge and interfered with all
judicial decisions?
A. I saw that later, and if I had known that
before, I would not have undertaken this daring attempt, because there was no
hope for it from the very beginning. But at the time, I thought that as a
jurist I was under an obligation to make this final attempt, because I just
could not accept the conditions which existed.
Q. You knew what the
Party platform was, did you not? You knew what Hitler had said in Mein Kampf,
did you not?
A. About that problem, he did not say anything in a
negative way in his Party platform and not in Mein Kampf either.
Q.
Well, as a reasonable man, Dr. Rothenberger, you knew what his attitudes were
on all of these questions, and if your program embodied having him become the
supreme judge, you knew fairly well how he would judge on all these questions
from your prior knowledge, did you not?
A. No. I can only emphasize
again and again that as long as I saw the possibility of influencing him, I
considered it my duty to make this attempt; otherwise I would have been a fool.
Q. No one denies that you did influence him, Dr. Rothenberger; the
implication is that you did, and that you were completely successful.
A. I did not have any success. That is just it. Hitler could not be
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