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supposed to be called to account personally,
or were measures supposed to be taken against them?
DEFENDANT KLEMM:
That was not supposed to be done in any case. It would have been neither in
accordance with the intentions of the Ministry nor was it the meaning of such a
guidance. The president of the district court of appeals in Hamburg, who was
requested at the end of the guidance letter to speak to the judges in the
appropriate manner, that was what it says literally in the letter, could handle
it directly. As the official superior, he did not use this letter at all; but
within the framework of a community of work within the NS lawyers league, that
is, on a purely comradeship basis and not as a superior, he spoke about these
matters. Even less could the president of the district court of appeals in
Stuttgart issue measures to the individual judges personally, or reproach them,
because this letter was expressly addressed to him. At the end it says that
"you, Mr. president of the district court of appeal should call direct and
special attention to these problems." There is also a circular letter by the
Ministry of Justice which is known and which emphasizes again and again that
the independence of the judges should not be touched.
Q. But in the
Stuttgart case the names of the participating judges were listed. What was the
purpose of that?
A. Of the twelve sentences which are mentioned in the
Stuttgart letter, nine had been pronounced when different members were sitting
in the court. For that very reason the names were listed to show that the issue
was not the failure of one individual judge, but that the general jurisdiction
of the district court of appeals of Stuttgart in matters of undermining
military efficiency was not in accordance with the wishes of the Reich level
and the needs of the time.
Q. In that connection the name of the
codefendant Cuhorst is mentioned. Did you know at the time the then President
Cuhorst?
A. No, his name did not mean anything to me.
Q. Did
you know that the then Senate President Cuhorst was also president of the
Special Court of Stuttgart; and, were the guidance letters supposed to
criticize the jurisdiction of the Special Court at Stuttgart?
A. I did
not know the jurisdiction of the Special Court of Stuttgart at all. That the
same person was presiding ,judge of the Special Court and president of the
senate of the district court of appeal was not known to me at the
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