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those people who, despite their German
descent under the Polish regime, had actively worked in a manner hostile to
Germany, the so-called renegades. These were the four classes of the German
People's List.
Q. Witness, could you tell us whether and to which
extent, the Staff Main Office, RuSHA and VoMi participated in the establishment
and issuance of the decrees concerning the German People's List?
A. The
original initiative for the decree concerning the German People's List dated
September 1940 was due to decree of Himmler which he signed in his capacity as
Reich Commissioner for the Strengthening of Germanism. In the future course,
the German People's List was dealt with in the Reich Ministry of the Interior
and by the agencies of the interior administration; but in the course of
negotiations concerning the enactment of the German People's List, there were a
very large number of agencies and offices involved, among these I am sure the
Staff Main Office and the Reich Security Main Office; perhaps also, but I can't
say for sure, VoMi and RuSHA. Furthermore, in the Staff Main Office the agency,
on the highest level within the scope of the agencies was set up; namely, the
Supreme Court for the Examination of Ethnic Questions; whereas the first three
levels in this procedure of examination were established with the agencies of
the interior administration, the fourth level was with the Staff Main Office.
Q. Witness, were you particularly familiar with the DVL procedure; and,
if so, why?
A. In the Staff Main Office, I was charged with the final
examination of these ethnic questions.
Q. Do you know whether the
original of the Decree 12/C, signed by Himmler, was in the hands of the Staff
Main Office or in the hands of Himmler himself, or any other agency?
A.
The original of the decree signed by Himmler himself, 12/C, I myself saw in the
files of the Staff Main Office. The decree was duplicated and mailed by the
Staff Main Office.
Q. Did the defendant Greifelt personally show the
Decree 12/C as well as the subsequent decree concerning the treatment of DVL-IV
people to the members of the Staff Main Office?
A. 12/C dealt only with
Departments I to III; the decree concerning Department IV dealt with the
remaining questions belonging to it.
Q. I asked you whether the
defendant Greifelt showed the Decree 12/C and the subsequent decree concerning
the treatment of DVL-IV to the members of the Staff Main Office shortly after
it had been signed by Himmler. |
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