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Q. What would these people,
these Jews 5,000 a day be, as you called them "Chosen People"?
That is what you called them: "The Chosen People."
A. Yes. They
probably were Jews.
Q. I say, you called them "The Chosen People." You
meant the Jews, didn't you?
A. I am not certain, but probably I meant
the Jews by that.
Q. Well, General, you answered a letter about Jews in
which the letter calls them Jews. You come back and call them "The Chosen
People." There is no quibbling about that.
A. Yes. The Jews themselves
proudly call themselves "The Chosen People."
Q. I said but what you
called them, and you meant the Jews when you said that, didn't you?
A.
Yes.
Q. All right. Now, they were being sent, 5,000 a day, to
Treblinka. Why were they being sent there?
A. I don't know, but it was
done by order of the Reich Leader.
Q. Why didn't you find out? If you
were thanking somebody for doing that, why didn't you find out why they were
being taken there?
A. With the innumerable orders which had to be taken
care of during the day it was sufficient for me to know that the Reich Leader
had given such and such an order; that the Reich Leader had ordered such a
movement of transportation; and actually because it was purely a transportation
matter and not an extermination measure, the State Secretary in the Reich
Ministry of Transportation had to furnish the necessary transportation and,
therefore, it was one of my tasks which brought me to contact the proper
agency, so that the necessary transportation could be furnished. I did this in
good faith, and that is the way I worked on it.
Q. Were you thanking
them for yourself and in the name of the Reich Leader SS for carrying on this
program? And you tell this Tribunal that you didn't know what this program was?
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JUDGE MUSMANNO: General, I would like to put
one question, which, perhaps is only of academic interest, but which certainly
has aroused my curiosity, to say the least. Mr. Robbins indicated that at the
first trial you had offered to place yourself in the defendants' box to
represent Himmler.
WITNESS KARL WOLFF: Yes.
Q. Did you mean by
that gesture that you would be willing to answer for the crimes which could be
laid at his door, if any? |
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