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Q. That is your assumption, a quite
subjective opinion, is it not ?
A. Yes, quite so.
Q. What is
the truth? What is the human being?
A. Yes. One could ask that
question.
Q. Well, you could say where was the truth and what is the
truth. Do you understand
A. I am afraid we are losing ourselves
in philosophy.
Q. Do I understand you correctly, that you, on the basis
of the communications and experiences, you formed the impressions of which you
have given us this picture here?
A. Yes. I have endeavored to speak
objectively, such as we have learned from the Allies, and which is the first
condition if you want to be democrats.
Q. Witness, one of my colleagues
asked you how it came about that you were examined before this Court, and you
told us that at the time you wrote to the prosecution and to Mummenthey's
defense counsel, whose name you did not know, that you were at their disposal
as a witness.
A. It is quite correct. It is only for the fifth time I
am telling you this.
Q. Yes, quite so. All I wanted to state was that I
heard from you in the course of this year that you were quite ready to appear
as a witness, and that you also told me that you had also informed the
prosecution of this.
A. Yes. I don't think anybody could be fairer. I
don't think that the SS would ever have been quite so fair as we have been to
them.
Q. Is it also correct, that even then, and not only under the
impression of conversations, you emphasized that you regarded it as your duty
to tell the Court anything and everything which might be favorable to
Mummenthey ?
A. If you want to describe facts, you cannot be influenced
either in the good or the bad sense of the word. I don't think that you have
gained the impression that any good or bad influence can be exerted on me.
Facts are so tremendous that only history will form the proper picture. No
influence can be exerted in this or in another way.
DR. FROESCHMANN:
May it please the Court, I have no further questions to this witness.
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