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matters and in political matters I was an opponent, and in this
question, and in many questions, politically and the like, this was the
difference between me and perhaps most of the gentlemen of I.G. Farben. I am
perhaps also different from most people in that I consider myself to belong to
the minority which adheres to that principle which was recently stated by the
Dutchman, Jess Glass [Yesglas], "I hate the bad in my own nation more than in
other nations." And I see the great difference of the inner attitude of the
Germans, how far they go when their loyalty to their Fatherland is demanded
without being convinced as to whether the Fatherland is still following the
right course. I belong to the very few people who had drawn that conclusion at
a very early time, and in consequence I was politically an opponent of Dr.
Ilgner, who was not a National Socialist, but who was a patriot and who hoped
to be able to remain a patriot to the last moment.
Q. I do not want to
tell you how to answer your questions, but Dr. Krueger, would you please try to
be a little briefer? Mr. President, I hope you do not mind my observation.
PRESIDING JUDGE SHAKE: Very well.
MR. SPRECHER: Will you tell
us whether or not it could fairly be said that the propaganda group of the
industrialists which was formed in 1933, and which you say existed until 1934,
had the purpose primarily of putting forward the best foot of the Third Reich?
A. Yes.
Q. You spoke about the 1st of May 1933 on
cross-examination. Do you know what happened on the 2d of May 1933 to all of
the leaders of the German Trade Unions?
A. Yes.
Q. That was
published broadly in the papers at the time?
A. Yes.
Q. You
mentioned the question of "howling with the wolves" once in a conversation with
me. I believe you said that it was a policy of "howling with the wolves." Is
that correct?
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| DR. GIERLICHS (associate counsel for defendant Schmitz) : Dr.
Krueger, I only have one question. Mr. Sprecher has just asked you whether it
was correct that in a conversation you used the expression "to howl with the
wolves." The defense can do very little with your affirmative statement if it
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