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A. Dr. Heintzeler, I don't think these are minutes; I believe these
are just a draft of the minutes.
Q. What makes you think that?
A. Because it has no signature and, as I pointed out when the document
was introduced, paragraph XIII is crossed out in the original. But it seems to
me that this record confirms what actually was discussed at this meeting,
especially the part that is crossed out.
Q. To complete the picture,
Dr. Wurster, what does the crossed-out paragraph XIII say in that one sentence?
Is it true, if I say that its purport is that Ludwigshafen was to be given a
free hand and was to be allowed to produce as before?
A. That is right.
Q. Why do you conclude the crossed-out paragraph XIII actually
reproduces what actually was discussed at the meeting of 12 September?
A. I conclude that from Prosecution Exhibit 267 —
DR.
HEINTZELER: Your Honors, this is in book 10, page 42 of the English.
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DR. HEINTZELER: Dr. Wurster, at the end of this morning's
session you spoke of the minutes of 12 September 1939, Prosecution Exhibit 270,
book 9. I had asked you from what you concluded that the crossed-out paragraph
XIII of those minutes, concerning Ludwigshafen-Oppau, represented correctly
what was actually discussed on 12 September 1939.
A. I concluded that
from Prosecution Exhibit 267. These are the minutes of a meeting of 15
September 1939, 3 days later. In these minutes it says in the introduction that
decisions reached at the meeting of 12 September 1939 had been read and adopted
with slight changes. These slight changes refer, obviously, to the question of
mobilization tasks for Ludwigshafen, for during this meeting of 15 September
the very opposite was resolved to what had been discussed in the draft under
XIII at the meeting of 12 September 1939, which could be seen from that draft.
Q. Can you indicate briefly to the Tribunal how, in your opinion, on
the basis of the two prosecution documents, the development of events took
place during these few days between 12 and 15 September?
A. Yes. I had
said before that the plant submitted a counter-proposal on 9 September.
Evidently during the meeting of 12 September, Dr. Ungewitter was unable to
reject that counter-proposal, and therefore he wanted to give us a free hand in
spite of the fact that neither the Reich Ministry of Economics nor the
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