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| which he himself would not like to grant. He said that he personally
represented the point of view that an exchange of experience, as I had
suggested, could continue without any further question. But then he said to me,
"You said to me that you wouldn't grant military secrets. You wouldn't transfer
any military secrets. How do you know what experience contains military
secrets?" I had to be prepared for that question. I said, “Well, in the
final analysis that is a matter for a technical expert to decide.” I tried
to explain to him what actually an exchange of experience meant. Thomas said,
“This is very complicated indeed. But draw up some kind of a file note so
that I can give you a decisive answer: yes or no.” And that is how this
file note came about, which Thomas then reported to Goering, who said,
“Very well, the exchange of experience can be continued.” But on the
margin it was said that, “Dr. Buetefisch must be responsible to me that
nothing wrong happens in this field.” Naturally I had to bear the
responsibility, and I did tell my gentlemen that military secrets may not be
sent abroad. Practically, however, when the war situation intensified, no
consequences resulted from that document. I must emphasize, however, expressly,
that up to the beginning of that war, I in no way imposed any limitations upon
any of my associates as to our collaboration with foreign partners with whom I
myself was in constant touch. The practical technical experiences were
exchanged on the very basis which I mentioned before. I cannot remember one
case in which I told even a single one of my associates to discontinue this
exchange. Naturally, I always pointed out to them what the laws were concerning
treason, but I must say that in our field I never had any reasons, that is, in
the mineral oil field, to express any prohibition or any specific
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| d. Testimony of Defendant ter Meer |
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EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF
DEFENDANT TER
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| DIRECT EXAMINATION |
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| DR. BORNEMANN (counsel for defendant ter Meer): I now turn to
questions of secrecy. When discussing this particular field I believe I should
begin with a remark that a member of the Tribunal made, in the person of Judge
Morris, on 3 September 1947, in the afternoon session. Judge Morris stated at
the time, "I |
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* Further extracts are
reproduced above in subsections C 5b, E 3, G 3, H 4b, I
7e, J 4, and K 3a, below in subsections G 3, M 3 and O 7a and in subsections VIII C 6, D 3, D 6, E 4 and IX F 2 in
volume VIII, this series.
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