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with our Sparte in these fields, because I have already mentioned
that we worked together with them in the field of acetylcellulose. Furthermore,
DAG was itself a company which processed cellulose on a large scale.
Q.
The formal attachment of which you just spoke actually did not express itself
in exerting any influence in a commercial or technical field on the DAG?
A. No. On the technical side, or rather about the technical side, I
have already spoken. But in respect to the sale of its products, the DAG was
completely independent, and in the field of sales it had nothing to do with
Farben. It had its own completely independent sales organization for the powder
and explosives, and also for the plastics field. It sold these plastics via its
sales organization Venditor. Furthermore, the independence of DAG was always
very definitely emphasized by Dr. Mueller. For example, after the creation of
the Sparten, when I wanted to inspect his installations and machinery in the
field of plastics and their fabrication, and their processing, differences
developed between the two of us.
Q. Would you just tell the Tribunal
who Dr. Paul Mueller was?
A. As I have already said, Dr. Paul Mueller
was the Director General of DAG. That is of the Dynamit Co. Nobel. He presided
over the Vorstand of this company.
Q. Of what type were the differences
that you had with him?
A. Dr. Paul Mueller was of the opinion that my
intentions to inspect his production could not be reconciled with the
agreements which the contract with Farben, namely with Bosch and Schmitz, asked
for; namely effecting the independence of his position. Therefore, he turned to
Dr. Bosch and asked for a conference in order to clarify our relationship.
Q. And how was this relationship clarified in this conference?
A. This conference was short and pleasant and it resulted in a simple
statement which Dr. Bosch answered on the question of Dr. Mueller of whether I
was a superior and whether I was able to give directives. Dr. Bosch said no,
that was not the case, whereupon Dr. Mueller said that this ended the question
as far as he was concerned. I may add that after this conference, Mr. Bosch
told me that the agreements mentioned before contained the promise that Dr.
Mueller was to remain independent, completely independent, and Mr. Schmitz
confirmed this to me later.
Q. And after this, as I understand from
your previous answers, it was practiced that way. Is that true?
A. Yes.
Myself, as well as my collaborators, absolutely complied with this decision.
Merely the credits — that is the demands for investment, went via Sparte
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