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at the moment. These discussions in Wiesbaden served the purpose of taking up the initial contact with those agencies which were responsible for the reactivation of business activity in France, in addition to the Reich Ministry of Economics, and those agencies that were decisive for conducting the industrial negotiations. I remember that the suggestions concerning France in the dyestuffs field were explained in August, Mr. von Schnitzler reported in Wiesbaden about the impressions that he had gained during his first trip in France.

Q. Mr. Kugler, what sort of trip was that and who participated in it?

A. This first trip was undertaken by Mr. von Schnitzler together with Dr. Terhaar. As far as I remember, it was to be a preliminary informational trip about the situation in France as it presented itself after the termination of hostilities. On the basis of information of German agencies in Paris at that time, interesting information for the Dyestuffs Department was imparted to us to the effect that the French textile industries would probably not start operating again in the immediate future. That was interesting for us dyestuffs salesmen because the textile industry in France, just as in other countries, was the chief consumer of dyestuffs. One can say that, in countries like France, the share of the textile industry in the consumption of dyestuffs was approximately sixty or seventy percent.

Q. Mr. Kugler, can you please tell me what was the immediate cause for this trip?

A. It was not one single reason alone. You have to take into consideration the situation at the time. Before the war, we had considerable business interests in France. There was a large agency in Paris, the SOPI [Société pour l'Importation de Matièes Colorantes et des Produits Chimiques]. We knew, by way of Switzerland, that during the war a lawsuit for espionage activity had been brought against SOPI. Mr. von Schnitzler wanted to find out, on the spot, what the fate of the members of that firm was, as these employees were our employees, or at least they were employees of our firm before the war. There were stockpiles and stores and one didn't know what had happened to them. And the same is true for outstanding debts, and other property that we had in France before the war. Thus Mr. von Schnitzler, as the chief of the Sales Combine Dyestuffs, had a whole number of reasons why he should undertake such a trip. Above and beyond that I thought that the reason was that Mr. von Schnitzler wanted to inform himself, in his capacity as chief of the Tar Dyes Sub group, about the entire situation.

Q. Is it correct, Dr. Kugler, that next to the Armistice Delegation, the Reich Ministry of Economics was also a decisive agency?

A. Yes, that is absolutely correct.

 
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