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Q. Did Dr. Kuepper express any opinion with respect to Mr.
Loncles statement?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you personally discuss
this with him?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you remember his written statement
which is contained in Exhibit 2150?
A. I received this document after
cross-examination this morning. I read it and I remember the paper very well.
Q. According to this document, and according to your personal
conversation, did Dr. Kuepper approve of M. Loncles opinion, or do you
remember any statement to the contrary?
PRESIDING JUDGE SHAKE: We well
remember that Dr. Kuepper was a witness here and testified quite fully with
respect to that very point; that the Preamble was prescribed by governmental
authorities and that it did not represent the views of Farben. Thats all
in the record here. This is highly repetitious. We well remember the details of
Dr. Kuepper on the witness stand telling that whole story. Now, no good point
would be accomplished by just burdening this record with repetition of that
when the best source of what Dr. Kuepper had to say about it is his own
testimony.
DR. SIEMERS: I beg your pardon, Your Honor. I wouldn't have
brought up this matter at all if the prosecution hadn't submitted the document.
I therefore want to ask you, Dr. Kugler, only whether Dr. Kuepper told
you anything about it? What was your opinion about the complete form of this
Preamble?
A. After I have been able to refresh my memory by reading
Exhibit 2150,* 1 can state the following. This document shows the actual
position of Farben. It further proves basically what I said during
cross-examination, before knowing the document. I should like to refer to the
last paragraph of the Exhibit 2150 where Dr. Kuepper says that the misgivings
of M. Loncle are not very serious and important. He furthermore says that the
background and history of the negotiations does not only become apparent from
the Preamble, but can be proved by the statements of the Frenchmen themselves.
Dr. Kuepper concludes his opinion by saying and this opinion was
approved by von Schnitzler, ter Meer, Waibel and all the other addressees
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Should it be impossible,
therefore, to have the Expose [Preamble] struck out, we can still
accommodate ourselves to the situation legally. |
| Q. Dr. Kugler, did the imports of dyestuffs from Switzerland play any
part in the course of the negotiations? |
__________ * Reproduced in part in 2
above.
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