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A. During the news we didn't talk much, however, there must have been
some news which was to the effect that in Holland the situation had so
consolidated that there was a possibility that outstanding members of the
economy would be able to travel there now and — if I may continue, if you
please — the tension of these gentlemen grew perceptibly; the radio was
shut off or was lowered and now the four gentlemen, I was standing behind them,
the other four were sitting around the table and with their fingers pointed to
certain places in Holland which I can’t repeat now. I remember to have
heard Leyden once, but I don't know any other locations now. If I mention some
names now, don't take that as actual facts but simply as illustration of what I
mean. One said, and I don't even know who it was because all four talked pretty
excitedly and with great intensity. One of them said, “here in”, well
let’s say village A — “there is Mr. Mayer” — and these
names, of course, are fictitious too, they are not the actual names mentioned
— “this village is yours,” and in B —
Q. I think
you did say this village but this man is yours? Please continue.
A.
“Here is village B; there is Mueller; he is yours, and there is Mr.
Schmidt, or Huber, or somebody, he has two plants, well, we will have him
arrested” and so it went on.
Q. Was it your impression that these
were persons belonging to the industry of the occupied territory who were
discussed there?
A. Without doubt.
Q. They were industrialists
or economists who were in the territories occupied by the Germans?
A.
Yes.
Q. And these gentlemen present behind whom you were standing,
discussed among themselves the division of the possible places of interests?
A. Yes.
Q. Was it clearly expressed that these were
industrialists?
A. Without a doubt.
Q. You couldn't have been
mistaken?
A. No.
Q. Were factories named?
A. It’s
possible. I'm not certain anymore whether factories were named. At any rate,
the executives and the factory owners, were mentioned by name and from the fact
that it was said, “this one is yours, that one is yours, that one we will
have arrested — he has two factories,” from that I had to conclude
that these were industrial installations and some sort of industrial plants.
Q. These were industrial objects? |
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