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Q. Witness, I'd like you to tell me whether each of the four
gentlemen said to each of the other four gentlemen, “This factory belongs
to you”?
A. Yes, whether they said exactly this or whether the one
said, “Let's have him arrested,” I can’t exactly tell you; and I
don’t know what the individual said and to which individual.
Q.
Could you say that Mr. von Bohlen said to anyone, “This factory is
yours”?
A. Yes, I can.
Q. To whom did he say that?
A. He might have said it to Mr. Luebs, he might have said it to this
Mr. Kevenaar.
Q. Could you say that Mr. Luebs said to any one of the
gentlemen, “This factory is yours”?
A. Yes, I can say that,
too.
Q. Could you say that the director named “K” said to one
of the other gentlemen, “This factory is yours”?
A. I am not
quite sure whether he did because this gentleman according to my observation
was the most passive in the whole affair. But then he was the most unimportant
of them, not one of the high-ups, because after all he was only a director.
Q. Could you say that the fourth gentleman said to any of the other
gentlemen, “This factory is yours”?
A. That I can’t say.
Q. So you only know, and I assume know definitely only of Mr. von
Bohlen and Mr. Luebs?
A. But also of this Mr. Kevenaar.
Q. I
believe you just said now, that you are not sure about Mr. Kevenaar.
A.
I said I don’t know of this Director K, the man whom I named Director K
with the question mark behind it. That was the fourth gentleman.
Q. I
beg your pardon, I misunderstood you. You do know then that three of these
gentlemen, that each of the three gentlemen said once, “This factory is
yours”?
A. Whether he said it once or several times, that I
can’t say after 8 years have gone by.
Q. Well, let’s say at
least once?
A. Yes, at least once.
Q. Please tell me then
concerning which factory Mr. von Bohlen said “this one is yours”?
A. I can’t say because I don’t remember the names. You can
imagine that a man like I who had to witness such a thing and then as a guest,
that he should be a little bit excited, so that he couldn’t remember names
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