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and if he does, then counsel for the defense can go into the basis of it on cross-examination.

MR. MANDELLAUB: I shall rephrase the question in a way I think will be acceptable to the Court. I shall restate that question. Witness, do you know what happened to the children of a female worker who worked for Krupp?

WITNESS WIRTZ: As soon as the eastern worker had given birth to the child, she was allowed 6 weeks; and after these 6 weeks, she went back to work; and the child was kept in the camp so that the female worker could go to work again. She saw that child only after work.

Q. Was this child separated from the mother?

A. Yes.
 
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Q. Mr. Witness, you have told the Court from your experiences the conditions during the period when you were camp leader or rather deputy camp leader at Krupp. Did you act as the private person Wirtz when you beat people or as the deputy camp leader of Krupp whose function was to beat people?

A. I was asked by the plant management to beat people. On my own initiative I wouldn't have beaten people.

Q. You can state here under oath that you personally on your own initiative would not have committed acts of brutality?

A. Yes.

Q. If you hadn’t been asked by the plant management to do this?

A. Yes.


MR. MANDELLAUB: I have no further questions, Your Honor.

CROSS-EXAMINATION 
 
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DR. STUEBINGER (assistant counsel for defendant Kupke): How could you find in the Voerde camp that the children were undernourished?

WITNESS WIRTZ: Because I could see them with my own eyes.

Q. Did you see them naked?

A. Yes.

Q. Perhaps you can tell the Tribunal what special observations you made, because when you say they were undernourished that was a conclusion which you drew because of your observations. Please tell us of your observation?

JUDGE DALY, Presiding: Well, Doctor, had not he already said that their legs and arms were the size of his thumb. He has already given some definite description, hasn’t he?

DR. STUEBINGER: Did you discuss this condition with the camp leader?

 
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