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A. I certainly didn't receive it and I don't remember having seen it anywhere.
Q. Didn't Curator Wuest receive that report?
A. I do not believe so. The scientific work in connection with Rascher, which only concerned Himmler personally, was always dealt with directly by Rascher and Himmler. These matters were only sent to Wuest if Himmler actually sent them himself. I don't believe that has happened in this particular case. At any rate, Wuest never told me anything about it. These reports and the research assignments just discussed lay completely outside the interests and sphere of Wuest.
Q. What do you know about the so-called dry-cold experiments of Dr. Rascher?
A. I only know about these experiments on the basis of Himmler's order which was sent by Himmler to Pohl and Grawitz because of the furnishing of the equipment. I don't know whether these experiments were actually carried out. At any rate, I only found out about that here in this courtroom. As a prerequisite for the execution Rascher said that it was necessary for them to be performed in the mountains. Himmler had also ordered that these experiments be carried out in the grounds of the mountain villa at Sudelfeld. I was to see to it that accommodation was available there. Investigations, however, proved that the terrain at Sudelfeld was not suitable for that purpose. At the same time I had heard that there were a sufficient number of cases of freezing to be found in hospitals at the front. I therefore asked Rascher why it, was necessary for him to carry out any further experiments. He evaded my question and merely declared categorically that he would have to abide by Himmler's order.
Q. Which year was that?
A. That was at the end of 1942.
Q. The order was at the end of 1942?
A. The end of 1942. The conversation with Rascher about the accommodation took place afterwards.
Q. And that was intended for the winter of 1943-44?
A. No, for 1942-43. Since the terrain at Sudelfeld was not suitable, some other place had to be found and I handled this matter in a very dilatory manner. Rascher pressed me on the matter and Himmler was rather indignant, but after all I couldn't create a house by myself. Himmler subsequently ordered that preparations be made for these experiments to be carried out at least in the next winter. I think I made a mistake, I think it must have been the winter of 1943-44. I'm sure it was 1943-44, and I think that afterwards Himmler said that
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