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would have been found in any case by means of a
chemical analysis. The scientific theoretical problem concerning the
harmfulness or even deadliness of maximum doses did not interest anyone.
"I was present at the experiments at Buchenwald.
"Five persons were presented to us for testing, because Gruppenfuehrer
Mueller had ordered experiments to be conducted on five persons. I checked the
papers of the persons to be, experimented on prior to the experiment. They were
Russians who had deserted, or workers, who had formed a gang, stolen, and
plundered, and had even been charged with murder. They had all been sentenced
to death before a special court in Pomerania. Gruppenfuehrer Mueller had
already previously been given the order for their execution.
"I had agreed with Dr. Ding that a preliminary experiment should be made
on three persons to see the kind of reaction this combination had in the
organism. Some of the condemned could speak German. They were told that the
experiments were neither dangerous nor painful, and that by taking part they
would at least put off their execution. Thereupon they all volunteered. Dr.
Ding chose three of them. They were transferred to Block 40. There they were
given a dose of pervitin and a subcutaneous injection of a soporific. Then they
had to go to bed. They fell asleep. Their sleep was very restless. One of them
slept for 20 hours. The others awoke a little earlier * * *."
Then he says that none of them showed the symptoms which
Koehler had shown, and that the experiment was considered completed. In the
last sentence of the next paragraph he says, "Therefore, I told Dr. Ding
that he should not make any more experiments, and I reported this to
Gruppenfuehrer Mueller." I shall read the last paragraph in another
connection.
According to the affidavit of Dr. Morgen, Mueller ordered Ding to carry out the
experiment at Buchenwald. Did you receive a report on this experiment?
A. No, I did not receive a report.
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CROSSEXAMINATION
Mr. Hardy: Prior to the afternoon recess, Doctor, we were discussing the phenol
problem. Now, in this connection, did you at any time propose experiments to be
conducted at Buchenwald concerning the tolerance of serum or sera containing
phenol? That is, did you propose that in 1942 or 1943 at any time?
Defendant Mrugowsky: No. No such suggestions were made and they were not
necessary, because in Germany every serum contains phenol. In the German serum
industry there is no serum produced
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