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stolen goods, and hoarded
goods." If that was true then, you ordered in all orders in the future about
these goods that these goods should be confiscated, did you not?
A.
Yes. That was in the order of the Reich Leader and I have stated before that
those things mostly originated from camps, and among those there were also
certain camps which had been confiscated by the Gestapo agent of Globocnik as
black market camps and that is where the concept probably originates. I do not
deny the fact that these people had to give up all those additional things,
that is, for instance, the skirt or their underwear which they could do without
easily, that those things were taken away from them, and that this was a
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MR. ROBINS : Witness, after you heard
Himmlers speech in Poznan, you had no doubt that the policy of the Reich
and the policy of the SS were committed to the extermination of the Jews, did
you?
DEFENDANT FRANK: Yes, quite.
JUDGE PHILLIPS: Was that in
'42 or '43 ?
MR. ROBBINS: October '43, your Honor. You say you did not
have any doubt?
DEFENDANT FRANK: It was in October 1943 when I heard
Himmler's speech at Poznan and I heard it as chief of the administration of the
police.
Q. And at that time it became clear to you that the policy of
the Reich was the extermination of the Jews? I did not quite get your answer?
A. No doubt could be possible anymore after that. As a man of thinking
faculties I had to deduce from Himmler's speech what he wanted to say.
Q. Is that the first time you heard about this, his policy?
A.
Yes.
Q. Is that the first time that you heard that Jews had been killed
in concentration camps?
A. I heard for the first time there, that the
German Reich had proclaimed an extermination program against the whole of
Jewry, who had associated against Hitler.
Q. That is not quite what I
asked you. Had you heard prior to that time that Jews had been killed in
concentration camps?
A. No.
Q. Had you heard they had died in
concentration camps on a large scale?
A. No. That people died in
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