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| Q. Let us go on to the later
meetings of the Circle of Friends in Berlin. I think you told us that you saw
the Tibet movie at one of these meetings, and that you learned from an exhibit
— here is, Your Honor, Document NI-8108,
Prosecution Exhibit 738* in document book 14-D, on page 1 — that that
meeting was held the day after the funeral of Heydrich. Do you recall any
mention of Heydrich at that meeting? A. I could not tell you that. I do not remember it. It is possible. I did not attend all the meetings, but it is quite possible and even probable that Heydrich was referred to during one of these meetings, but I could not tell you. Q. You did attend this meeting where the Tibet film was shown? A. I think I was attending that meeting. I think so. Q. At that particular meeting, according to this exhibit, Kranefuss introduced the lecturer who I believe was a man named Schaefer, and in the course of his introduction, he delivered a speech on Heydrich. Do you recall that? A. That I cannot recall, but, as I said, I think it is possible. Certainly, it was not so important for me. The Tibet expedition, which I think I can remember, was not so important. I do not know whether the Tibet film was shown during one of the meetings only, or whether it was split up in several meetings. I could not tell you that. Q. Coming now to the trip to Hitler's headquarters in 1943. Did you talk to him at all on that occasion? A. With Himmler? Yes, yes. Q. Was it just a social conversation? A. That was a conversation at a meeting which according to my estimate was attended by about 40 persons. There might even have been more. On this occasion, Himmler talked once with various people just in private conversations. But they did not have very much time for it because the agenda was submitted here, and this program was very extensive. I could not give you the whole program. I do not remember it very well. There was a speech by Himmler and all sorts of things which had been provided for instance, a choir recital, coffee, and at least four or five different items were on the agenda. Thus the available hours were very quickly filled. Himmler's speech after all took quite a time, too. Q. Yes. I think you told your recollections of that speech. Had you, by that time, that is in 1943, already learned that your own office was under supervision, ostensibly, by Himmler, and that you had been informed? |
* Reproduced in C above.
