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A. Whether at that time I was
informed so exactly, as I was informed about it later, that I could not tell
you today. But I do think that we received certain information already at that
period. I could not tell you exactly whether that was in 1943 or whether it was
only in 1944. When we took the necessary measures to defend ourselves against
this constant observation, my collaborators will be able to testify to it. I
could not tell you whether it was in the summer of 1943 or only in 1944. I
could not say that from my memory.
Q. Well, now, did you at any time,
ever try to exercise any influence over Himmler?
A. I never tried to
exercise any influence over Himmler with one exception. That was when I tried
to get SS Lieutenant General Wolff to influence Himmler to maintain peace when
peace was endangered and seemed to be imperiled in September 1938. There I made
efforts to use my contact with his adjutant in order to have a certain
influence exerted on him.
Q. The adjutant was Wolff ?
A. Yes.
It was Wolff.
Q. I think you told us you gave him a shotgun? Is that
right.?
A. Yes.
Q. It was in the nature of a wager, was it? You
bet that a war would begin and Wolff bet that it would not.
A. In
discussing this situation, we made a wager. I hoped I would lose that wager
because there are certain kinds of wagers you would rather lose because if you
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