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DEFENDANT ILGNER: Yes.
Q. Isn't it true, that in 1936 you
promised Major Bloch of the Intelligence Department of the OKW that he would
receive VOWI reports from your ZEFI confidential agents and contact [liaison]
men abroad?
A. No, that isn't correct the way you say it. Major Bloch
had the desire, in connection with the Far East report, to get a copy of this
report and, if possible, to get similar papers and interesting reports in the
future. Since I didn't concern myself with such details, I invited him to a
lunch together with a few of my associates. It was a general conversation we
had, which was, however, decisively influenced by my clear statements made to
Major Bloch (which he quite clearly understood) to the effect that Farben,
which was the largest German export firm with a very delicate position abroad,
could not compromise itself with anything that had to do with the intelligence
agencies. We discussed this question in the Commercial Committee after some
meeting during a lunch, I believe, and we had only one policy in this respect.
Q. Dr. Ilgner, didn't you promise, however, to transmit VOWI reports
and reports from ZEFI confidential agents and liaison men?
A. No,
because I never passed on such reports.
PRESIDING JUDGE SHAKE: Just a
minute, please. Now you said "No," and ordinarily that would be sufficient. I
mention the matter because of this circumstance. It may be that in addition to
saying "No," you think that it would be proper to make some explanation;
perhaps as to whether you should make some further explanation, you may
postpone it until you have thought the matter over and talked to your counsel
and determined whether or not that "No" is sufficient.
MRS. KAUFMAN: In
connection with this conversation that you had with Major Bloch and your staff,
didn't you at that time promise Major Bloch that visitors abroad that would
come to see Farben, would be referred to him?
DEFENDANT ILGNER: Not in
this form. During the lunch, in the presence of Mr. Saxer, I promised him that
the gentlemen would respect his wishes. The entire meeting was a non-committal
conversation of a general nature so that I really can't tell you what actually,
if anything at all, ever came of this.
Q. I show you Document NI-14677,
marked for identification only as Prosecution Exhibit 2025*, and ask you, Dr.
Ilgner, whether on page 4 of this document, which is a handwritten statement
prepared by you, you do not state: "Major Bloch asked me . |
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