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Q. Now, when I refer to the RSHA, I am naturally not merely referring
to the Central Office. I am referring to representatives of the RSHA, of the
Gestapo, or the SD. Did you have political duties within the plants in relation
to the Gestapo, the SD, the Sipo, or the RSHA in that connection?
A.
Yes, in regard to reports; for instance, reporting serious infractions against
labor discipline, political affairs, and so on.
Q. Political affairs
and so on; what do you mean by political affairs and so on?
A. Well, if
anybody was reported by a member of the employees or by way of the confidential
council, that he had made statements, for instance, against the National
Socialist system, against Hitler, or some such statement, then such a thing had
to be reported.
Q. Didn't you take steps and participate in a number of
meetings where a system (for taking care of this political opposition and
security measures against the political opposition) was worked out in great
detail?
A. I did not understand that.
Q. Didn't you sometimes
participate and take the leadership in meetings where details of these
political measures of the Abwehr were discussed and detailed plans made?
A. Do you mean outside of the plant?
Q. Some of the meetings
were in the plant, some of the meetings were outside the plant. I don't care
where they were, did you participate in such meetings?
A. I cannot
remember them now; perhaps if you put some document to me.
Q. Do you
know where the Gestapo headquarters was in Halle?
A. I was never there.
Q. Did you ever receive any invitations to meetings that came to you on
the stationery of the Gestapo office in Halle?
A. Yes, I now remember
one single meeting to which we were invited, that is, I myself, an Abwehr
officer, and the plant guard [Werkshutz] leader of Leuna, to take part in a
conference of the Gestapo in Halle, where general reports and lectures were
made about the Gestapo activities, but I cannot remember exactly what the
subjects were.
Q. Now, were any of the persons who gave lectures at
that meeting called by the Gestapo, representatives of the OKW or the Army
[sic], or were there only representatives of the SS, the SD, the RSHA, the
Sipo, or other agencies of the Nazi police state? In other words, do you
remember any single OKW man who gave a lecture at that time?
A. No,
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