NMT01-T630
Volume I · Page 630
Q. "Ten persons inoculated for the third time with 1 cc." Professor, I thought you told us that you did not carry out multiple vaccinations with your murine vaccine in Schirmeck.
A. I have already testified that the only vaccinations in Schirmeck were in May 1943. I do not know from where this record came. In the fall of 1943 we were only working in Natzweiler I am sorry, I cannot give any explanation.
Q. This entry, though, Professor, indicates an inoculation for the third time on a series of ten persons. That was your "Infektions-Versuche," was it not, Professor?
A. No. I know nothing about it; I am sorry.
Q. But your series of three vaccinations was what you referred to as the "Infektions-Versuche," was it not, Professor?
A. But these were vaccinations which were carried out in Natzweiler, Mr. Prosecutor.
Q. The book says they were carried out in Schirmeck, and about four days before, on the 4th of October 1943, you wrote to Rose and said, "We have to carry out infection experiments." Professor, is it possible that you really meant by "infection experiments" something other than your three-times vaccination which you I had concluded on 14 October 1943?
A. Let me see exactly what it says here, page 5, "10 October 14 October, ten persons, three times point five," it says again. It only says it is a vaccination, if this document is right,
Q. Does the document say, "Vaccinated ten persons, inoculated for the third time"? Is that what it said?
A. Yes. It says so. In May at Schirmeck in the control group we vaccinated three times. That is not impossible; but what I notice on this document, if you want to connect it with the Ipsen vaccine, is that it does not say anything about the Ipsen vaccine; I have not found that yet, but it does say Gildemeister.
Q. I have not mentioned anything about Ipsen vaccine. Let us proceed, Professor, so that we get through before the noon recess. Remember, you testified you had not carried out any vaccinations in Natzweiler after January 1944. Professor, will you turn to page 7 of this little notebook on your experiments, and while this is not the only entry which shows that you carried out vaccination experiments in Natzweiler after January 1944, I think it will be sufficient for our purposes. Do you have page 7? Will you find the entry?
A. Yes. I have page 7.
Q. Will you find the entry for 25 May 1944?
A. Yes.
Q. Does that read, "Together with S inoculated, used up five tubes of MI in Natzweiler: two ampules distilled water, three to four cubic centimeters per ampule vaccine, 0.5 cc. The inoculation took place
